Wait… There’s a North Side Rap Scene?!
With all aforementioned music moguls we played the same “Name That Rapper” game before our interview as we did with part I, where I would name sides of the city and interviewees would name artists from that area. Similar to my prior experience, artists could name more artists from the side that they were from, successfully pinned at least a few artists from other sides, and continued was the common trend of North Side obliviousness. Admittedly, little to no rappers have “made it” from the North Side, the closest evidence of one can be found in Ace Mac with the “Make It Rain (Remix)” quick-lived success.
When I read out “North Side” to King Louie, he admitted that “low key, I don’t really know rappers from the North Side”. Part of the reason for that was the blurred and undefined borders; some people consider Humboldt Park to be West Side, some consider it North Side. Yet and still, as MoonDawg states, some people “have never even seen Humboldt Park, and it keeps them close minded. It prolongs Chicago from unifying itself all the way”. This can be blamed on media portrayal, as the negative is almost always highlighted and it doesn’t prompt people to move around. At times, the North Side doesn’t bring about as many images of poverty or struggle (again, blamed on media).
This can discredit rapper credibility, though they face the same social ills. What the North Side does bring about, as both MoonDawg and Scheme mentioned, is the image of Boystown, the celebrated Gay community in Chicago, which can also “discredit” North Side rapper cred. I adamantly blame this on Hip Hop homophobia. The North Side is also almost always synonymous with Latino rap and rappers, and Malik Yusef said that “segregation affects Latino rap the most in Chicago, because ethnic boundaries are bigger than geographic boundaries.” Some other variables affecting North Side rap were connections and potentially a “not as strong” work ethic. But, other than work ethic, if most of the factors preventing North Side rappers being put on is uncontrolled by them, then, how can this North Side perception change and how can we become the “all-city chorus?” Are we truly “winning” of one side is left out?
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dope post!
Thanks, Kenio!
Wow I never realized how prominent the segregation is! Great article, very informative, and I’m glad you’re are slowly bringing attention to this issue! Keep up the good work.
Thank you Jessica. I hope, through writing, to shed light to a lot of things that are known and just not spoken of.
Very well written…..Its about time someone sheads light on this subject. Hopefully, one day there will be no “hood” boarders and this wonderful city we call home will be put on the mapa as it should be!
Agreed. I like that “mapa”, btw. Spanglish swag! :)~
Everyone interested in exploring the roots of segregation (globally and locally) should check out the book “Segregation” by Carl Nightingale. I was born and raised in Chicago, went to college in Florida, and live in D.C. and most places are segregated by race and socio-economic barriers. To understand people that you assume to be different you have to talk to them with an open mind, and you will probably find that being human- we have inherent similarities.
I talked to one of my grandmothers some years back when I was writing a paper on segregation, and I asked her about the food that white people ate in the Jim Crow South. She told me white people ate the same food as blacks, as blacks cooked for whites. However, if you listen to traditional media outlets, look at old caricatures of blacks, etc. it almost appears that “Soul Food” is demonized and white people didn’t find out about it until 1996 when the movie came out. We are no longer isolated through Jim Crow policies in the South, but the mentality is still there- among some of us, as most blacks in Chicago stem from migrants that came to Chicago during that era.
The new generation locally and globally has the tools to move into a more integrated society, which is happening via the internet, the reversal of white flight, global trade, etc. We just have to keep having these discussions and follow them up with exposing people to: different neighborhoods, sides of towns, suburbs, cities, and countries. The more you know, the more you grow, and education is the true perpetrator of segregation.
I’m down to get the movement moving faster, and believe food and music are two of the easiest universal languages to transcend barriers.
Word. I took a course on Urban Chicago at UIC. We read “Black Metropolis”, “Land of Hope” and “Making The Second Ghetto”, amongst others. That’s definitely what enlightened me to the purposeful borders, and what birthed the idea for this article. I agree, wholly that “education is the true perpetrator of segregation”. What people don’t know they can’t fight against. Thanks for being a soldier in this struggle!
True>>>> I found out everyone in the south ate “soul food” when i went to a popular restaurant in Montgomery Ala. It started to make me view things differently.. This is America.. either you want to work your ass off for what you want to achieve or become stagnant focusing on racial divides & etc. I wouldnt trade our worst hoods for the worst hoods of many of our close countries. Shut the Eff up & #LetsWork is my motto OTW!!!!!
Agreed, except stagnant isn’t just focusing on racial divides. It’s common knowledge that we’re not post-racial. At least, common to those with their ears and feet on the streets. Speaking on it is crucial in the battle.
but who are some north side rappers?
The fact that you don’t know shows the problem. They’re not nonexistent. There are plenty. Myself, 108, Scheme (interviewed here), Astonish, Reap, BDB, Visual, Viru, Molemen, etc. The North spans all the way to Wilson St. and such. I don’t think they get proper exposure, for reasons mentioned in this article.
I think some of the problem with exposure on the North Side is that artists seem to be grouped in the more “indie” or “underground” scenes. You might find more kids from Evanston at a northside hip hop show than from Edgewater or Logan Square
There are a few N.Side rappers and most of em have been on fakeshore before. off the top of my head u got
Tree
cabrini mob
Ace mac
108
ec illa
the molemen
Noelz
I was gonna say scheme and chi-ill but theyre from humboldt park and I never really thought of that as the North Side but more so “out west”.
BUt the N. side is overlooked. Hell I think the burbs get more attention now than up north
CHECK THIS NIGGA OUT NAMED KENBEN ON YOUTUBE HIS CHANNEL NAME ON THERE IS KENBENTV HE FROM THE NORTHSIDE IN ROGERSPARK HE GO HARD TOO I SWEAR
Nice article, and we all know 35th (Sox) is where the last White people get off the train at.
And, shit, I have to go all the way up North just to go to Tiger Direct or Micro Center. If you’re gonna spend your cheque, you will probably spend it all – on the North Side. Lol…
Thank you! Business and capitalism have a lot to do with segregation. That’s key in gentrification, they trying to kick us out of our spaces, but – HELL NO WE WON’T GO! 😉
PinkyRing, your music is nice, btw.
Thank ya! 🙂
It is funny how nobody knows anything about Up North when most of the music venues everybody goes to are on the Northside off Milwaukee Ave or North Ave and Damen (Congress Theatre, Subterranean, etc). EC Illa was definitely the voice of the Northside when he was running it, and hopefully somebody of Up North breaks out but I challenge everybody to just go explore what the Northside has to offer. 90 Miles Cuban Cafe and Las Islas Mariscas is the shit though lowkey!
Scheme mentioned that in our interview, about North Side venues being the way people finally made it to this side. Even King Louie was familiar with Funky Buddha. I also challenge, eff that, IMPLORE a North Side artist to put on. And LOL @ those restaurants. 90 Miles is flame, though, I was there on Monday. And BYOB! 🙂
CHECK OUT THIS NIGGA ON YOUTUBE NAMED KENBEN HE FROM THE NORTHSIDE EAST ROGERSPARK
AYE CHECK OUT THIS BOY FROM ROGERS PARK ON THE NORTHSIDE I SWEAR HE CAN BE THE NEXT TO BLOW LIKE CHIEF KEEF HIS CHANNEL NAME ON YOUTUBE IS KENBENTV HE RAW AS FUCK I SWEAR YOU BE DISSAPOINTED
TYPO “YOU WONT BE DISAPPOINTED”
Theres segregation everywhere
Right, but it’s more prominent here. We are THE most racially segregated city. We have that title.
I appreciate this article, personally I LOVE music and travel all over the city to listen to good music and you would surprise how different the music is 20mins away from the last venue you where at. I go to plenty of places on the North side just as easily you can find me in the wild hundreds hanging out with a whole different crowd, but when if travel out of the city for example Philly, it is crazy how artist view Chicago. I tend to hear a lot about the South side of Chi as appose to the North side of Chi. as someone stated earlier its almost none existent and let me tell you I am a HUGE fan of Scheme especially his TWO TURNTABLES AND A MIC with DJ Scend. I love those tributes to DJ’s. if you guys haven’t seen some of their videos you should definitely check out at least one. again thanks for writing a Great article and hopefully this will change some minds and help the music aspect of things in Chicago
Thank you for reading!
People outside of the Chi LOVE us.
When we gon’ love ourselves?
ALL of us.
Including all sides.
#ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmm
Chicago needs to learn to support one another rather than constantly trying to one up each other. We will never be able to grow if we just worry about ourselves. No one who is a major artist made it on their own. Let’s learn to build and encourage each other. Support Good Chicago Music and Businesses #CSOO ChitownSupportingOurOwn I started this this because I have been taught to support local business and artists because if we don’t then they potentially leave.
Their is probably even more division and segregation in other big cities such as L.A., but they still managed to put good music out-there and get recognized for it due to their talent and grind. Chicagoans, imo just like ”segregation” as an excused for why they have not had alot of commercial success as whole.
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